What Noise Is Not.
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I'm not sure of your point here. The Noise as in Noise Music has origins in the 1990s makes challenges on typical definitions. It might be more a question of art becoming noise if one is looking at 'theory'....
I'm not sure of your point here. The Noise as in Noise Music has origins in the 1990s makes challenges on typical definitions. It might be more a question of art becoming noise if one is looking at 'theory'....
"Cage's 4'33" = 273 seconds xe2x88x92273.15xc2xb0 C = absolute zero."
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" It is this difference from other signs that allows the possibility of a speech community."
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So if a work of art That is NOT intended to be ignored is ignored is it art...if you create an art so boring and not interesting that it illicites no reaction at all from people is it art.
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SERIOUS QUESTION:
Are emoticons art? I do mean this, even while I am sure vibrating-mouthed sex dolls are probably a thing, and ultimately the same.
What is art, anyway? Is it just bigger and bigger, scarier and scarier fair rides?
I do not know... ._.
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If you called it performance art and did that in a gallery then maybe....xc2xbe dead wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:09 pmSERIOUS QUESTION:
Are emoticons art? I do mean this, even while I am sure vibrating-mouthed sex dolls are probably a thing, and ultimately the same.
What is art, anyway? Is it just bigger and bigger, scarier and scarier fair rides?
I do not know... ._.
I learned to like cock-sounding after a half-assed myself attempt which ended in a bitchy male nurse shoving a catheter tube up my smelly, shriveled, uncircumcised cock in front of my living parents. It felt insane in a good way, as long as I don't think too much about my mom and my step dad peering in through the doorway at my drug-shriveled penis.
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If you will excuse this reply, I haven't re-checked but the idea runs like so. Back in the 1400s the rich commissioned works in churches of paintings of biblical scenes. (Adrian's elite xe2x80x93 still around though - Jeff Koons 10-foot-tall Balloon Dog (Orange) (1994xe2x80x932000) was purchased for $58.4 million at Christiexe2x80x99s xe2x80x93 maybe a 10 foot koons emoticon would?) They would draw up very fixed contracts, subject, how much gold leaf, and aquamarine, and where the patrons would be in the picture, bit like a getting someone to paint your house now...re colours etc. Then there came a slow shift until the contract read - xe2x80x9cA painting by Michaelangelo.xe2x80x9d The craftsman, given instructions had become an Artist xe2x80x93 a man of creative genius, invention and imagination as well as great skill. So craftsmen had skill, artists had genius. More or less anyone could learn a craft, and craftsmen were lesser beings than the rich elite. Whilst Artists came to be endowed with Genius. These geniuses produced ART.xc2xbe dead wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:09 pm
SERIOUS QUESTION:
Are emoticons art? I do mean this, even while I am sure vibrating-mouthed sex dolls are probably a thing, and ultimately the same.
What is art, anyway? Is it just bigger and bigger, scarier and scarier fair rides?
I do not know... ._.
xe2x80x9cWhat is art, anyway? Is it just bigger and bigger, scarier and scarier fair rides?xe2x80x9d
Well no. They came up with new ways of conceiving reality. Ones that no one else had thought of... or made...
They refined, invented and developed artworks, up to the mid 20thC. As Adrian says xe2x80x93 via Duchamp xe2x80x93 context became more important than product. xe2x80x9cIf you called it performance art and did that in a gallery then maybe....xe2x80x9d But by the 1960s with conceptual art even the physical contexts are challenged, so something like xe2x80x9cWhat I had for lunch yesterdayxe2x80x9d - could be considered art. xe2x80x9cif someone calls it art,xe2x80x9d as Don Judd has said, xe2x80x9citxe2x80x99s art.xe2x80x9d
Getting others to accept its art worth $58.4 million is another matter. Save to say the object is no longer as important as the authenticity. E.g. the banana https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesig ... gry-artist
So like designer jeans, its the label.
Footnote: Its not just money, to be considered as ART / ARTIST*, you need approval of the Art Mafia, gallery owners and such. The pop group KLF tried to crash the ART scene and failed, even burning a million quid. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Foundat ... llion_Quid
Poor Drummond still trying to break into ART painting slogans underneath spaghetti junction here in Bham UK.
https://www.business-live.co.uk/retail- ... ns-8373532
P.S.
As the YBA Hirst said
xe2x80x9cI can't wait to get into a position to make really bad art and get away with itxe2x80x9d
Damien Hirst's 'Treasures from the Wreck of the Unbelievable' of 2017 consists of 190 works across 54,000 square feet of gallery spaces in Venice. Galleries owned by Franxc3xa7ois Pinault. Who owns Christie's Auction House, which sells xe2x80x9cHirst'sxe2x80x9d work. Who is estimated to be worth 13.7 billion dollars as of 2015.
The artworks of 'The Treasures' were produced for Hirst, not by Hirst at Hirst's personal expense, at a cost of between 50 and 100 million UK pounds to manufacture.
*Preferred term now is xe2x80x9cA creativexe2x80x9d ugh!
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Re: What Noise Is Not.
Freedom from speech.cultofthesunmachine wrote: ↑Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:26 am on this board, noise is not...
freedom of speech
Freedom to not care.
Freedom to ignore.
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