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[FAP]

To be fair, though, reissuing Scum is like printing money: reissuing Venereology is like shitting out dimes.

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[Fire of the Mind]

I have my CD copy of Venerology I got when it came out and leaving off I lead you records glorious times is absolute bullshit as that is one of my faborite tracks.

Pretty sure I've mentioned this before, but all of the missing tracks on the reissues are ones which involved Reiko Azuma. She and Masami Akita were paramours at the time and their breakup was on extremely bad terms, so I can understand his not wanting to revisit those recordings and just adding alternate material from the same sessions instead.

Also, while the Devil does not need an advocate, I don't necessarily see a vinyl master of something like Venereology as a cash grab, but rather a challenge of reinterpretation rooted in the limits and expanded possibilities of a new medium. Vinyl emphasises different frequencies from a flat digital transfer, and getting a vinyl master really loud and pummelling without making it unplayable requires very precise mixing. It's also just pleasing to make a ritual of turning over each side, looking at the sleeve and so forth. Given Masami's perfectionism and fascinations with ritual and, embarrassed as he is of this now, fetishism, it's an ideal format for Merzbow as a project.

[Indeterminacy]

I don't necessarily see a vinyl master of something like Venereology as a cash grab, but rather a challenge of reinterpretation rooted in the limits and expanded possibilities of a new medium. Vinyl emphasises different frequencies from a flat digital transfer, and getting a vinyl master really loud and pummelling without making it unplayable requires very precise mixing. It's also just pleasing to make a ritual of turning over each side, looking at the sleeve and so forth. Given Masami's perfectionism and fascinations with ritual and, embarrassed as he is of this now, fetishism, it's an ideal format for Merzbow as a project.

Could you rephrase that in plain english?


And what do you specifically mean with this:
"..... the limits and expanded possibilities of a new medium."

[FAP]

Also, while the Devil does not need an advocate, I don't necessarily see a vinyl master of something like Venereology as a cash grab, but rather a challenge of reinterpretation rooted in the limits and expanded possibilities of a new medium. Vinyl emphasises different frequencies from a flat digital transfer, and getting a vinyl master really loud and pummelling without making it unplayable requires very precise mixing. It's also just pleasing to make a ritual of turning over each side, looking at the sleeve and so forth. Given Masami's perfectionism and fascinations with ritual and, embarrassed as he is of this now, fetishism, it's an ideal format for Merzbow as a project.

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[RUBBISH]

I have my CD copy of Venerology I got when it came out and leaving off I lead you records glorious times is absolute bullshit as that is one of my faborite tracks.

Pretty sure I've mentioned this before, but all of the missing tracks on the reissues are ones which involved Reiko Azuma. She and Masami Akita were paramours at the time and their breakup was on extremely bad terms, so I can understand his not wanting to revisit those recordings and just adding alternate material from the same sessions instead.

Also, while the Devil does not need an advocate, I don't necessarily see a vinyl master of something like Venereology as a cash grab, but rather a challenge of reinterpretation rooted in the limits and expanded possibilities of a new medium. Vinyl emphasises different frequencies from a flat digital transfer, and getting a vinyl master really loud and pummelling without making it unplayable requires very precise mixing. It's also just pleasing to make a ritual of turning over each side, looking at the sleeve and so forth. Given Masami's perfectionism and fascinations with ritual and, embarrassed as he is of this now, fetishism, it's an ideal format for Merzbow as a project.

Really..love..sex..is the reason?
If that's true fuck Merzbow that's the dumbest shit reason excuse for something ive heard in a long time.

No amount of precise mixing is gonna allow 40+ min of sound on a record disc nor will it allow deep bass at the begining or end of the disc at 33rpm..or 45rpm.
I mean sure if ya mix the bass right out that would work.


The art work is basic and probably most likely designedd for a CD case so making it big will not make it look better. Replacing the art is as dumb as replacing tracks and you may as well just release a new album.

Rereleases are fine.
Remixes by ' The artist' are generally a worthless money grab or some effect of sober living that shouldnt involve revisiting things you did while on drugs .
There is also just being dumb and the combo of all 3 of the above.

Yes merzbow has the absolute right to be stupid and greedy and piss people off with a shitty rerelease
A perfectionist is rarely perfect and in fact is more likely than not extremely unperfect hence the ruination of a claasic work of 'art' for money reasons. Context content and time of place completely destroyed...sad.

Turning over a record is not ritual its required to hear the other side and smart 60s trippers and heads bought 2 copies of a record and stacked them on the player so they wouldnt have to flip records over.
Even glued felt on one of the sides so when it hit the other record it wouldnt make a trip shattering sound.

Ritual without effect is nothing...nostalgia for something never done or never had is just silly but I get it and partake in it all the time...so flip that Damn record and get all ya can out of it!

This is about money and selling units and if you dont like it bitch and don't buy it.

Feel free to defend shitty greedy ploys for cash by lets admit a legend that hasn't produced anyhing extraordinary in a very long time(rerelease time!)
...thats ok...I want to hear other veiws.




Wait haven't we had this discussion before....

[Fire of the Mind]

I don't necessarily see a vinyl master of something like Venereology as a cash grab, but rather a challenge of reinterpretation rooted in the limits and expanded possibilities of a new medium. Vinyl emphasises different frequencies from a flat digital transfer, and getting a vinyl master really loud and pummelling without making it unplayable requires very precise mixing. It's also just pleasing to make a ritual of turning over each side, looking at the sleeve and so forth. Given Masami's perfectionism and fascinations with ritual and, embarrassed as he is of this now, fetishism, it's an ideal format for Merzbow as a project.

Could you rephrase that in plain english?


And what do you specifically mean with this:
"..... the limits and expanded possibilities of a new medium."

It just operates on an entirely different set of rules from CD, is the thing. For just one detail, as Rubbish notes, getting deep bass frequencies to come through cleanly at volume without sending the needle off the damned record tends to require a combination of really finicky mastering and a fairly heavy record, ideally played at a higher speed. This is part of the reason why PiL's Metal Box was initially released the way that it was, beyond being obnoxious. Personally, I find those differences in sound interesting, and I can see wanting to hear how a record might sound in a different format and wanting to test the logistics there.

That said, it's not like I don't see the counterargument. But with that in mindxe2x80xa6 the original version is still out there, not simply physically in circulation but I'm pretty sure widely available in a zillion other ways. The over-the-top reissue does not make the original disappear, bad or not. (And for the morbidly curious who don't want to pay through the nose for the vinyl, well, I'm sure *someone* has put it up online in some ridiculous lossless file format somewhere. It's Merzbow.)

As for the quality of his recent work, while I wouldn't say he's released anything truly classic in some time, what I've heard of his recent work is, at worst, pretty decent. But that's been true of long stretches of his career in general. I'm not here to fawn over the manxe2x80x94guy seems like a bit of an egomaniac, franklyxe2x80x94but I just can't get too worked up over an unnecessary reissue rooted in a mix of vinyl hauntology and dank memes.

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[RUBBISH]

Noise adjacent.

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