what should i add to my setup?

[Soloman Tump]

The behringer neutron is easily capable of creating rich generative patches, and is relatively inexpensive for what you get. Also, a great learning curves for synth and patching. You can make anything from a k ck drum to weird ambient swashes with it. Great for making noise and pretty much every genre possible. So, I would look into that if you don't mind throwing money towards behringer.

[zowozon]

I make a lot of generative music. For generative harsh noise I use the Montreal Assembly Fax Machine all the time. There's also the Aqua setting in the Korg AX1G which does something similar, but not as cool. Put either (Or both) of them into a feedback loop, it gets really wild really fast.

Unfortunately, you'll be looking to either learn to work with a DAW, or upping your budget and learn to have patience and save up your pennies. There's gear out there that'll do what you want, but they won't be particularly cheap. There's always the DIY route, because there's a lot of schematics out there for weird ass stuff.

what kind of weird ass stuff? can you show me the schematic?

[iNtox-Z]

thank you
i like noise with a variety of sounds and i think it would be cool to have something that kind of self evolves if that makes sense
like generative music but not completely
i recently listened to this
i think that is the kind of noise i want to make i hope this is helpful

Judging by the sound, such tracks have modular synthesizers as their source, they are very expensive, although there are budget options such as the Beringer neutron, third-party field recordings are also used in this track, as well as any synthesizer that can emit ambient pads. It all depends on your money and desire, you can easily make such tracks using a music program, for convenience only by buying a MIDI controller.

Also check this video, it's RAW but not Generative patching, just raw Neutron noise.

[FAP]

my entire setup right now is a boss ds-1 and a behringer vd400

what i do is plug the main input and output of the vd400 into each other
and for the direct output i send that to the boss ds-1 and then the ouput of that goes into the amp

anything else i should add?

The problem with your question is itxe2x80x99s phrased in a way that there can be no real answer to it. None of us know what youxe2x80x99re trying to achieve with the set up you have now, let alone what youxe2x80x99re trying accomplish in general, and Ixe2x80x99m willing to bet you donxe2x80x99t know either.

We canxe2x80x99t make the noise for you: you have to play with what you have, learn from it, get an idea of what you want to do, and then move on from there.

It would be different if you had a specific question, like how do I make a feedback loop or what is control volume, or if you had asked for effects recommendations; even the xe2x80x9chow do I sound like Xxe2x80x9d-type threads have the possibility of an objective answer.

TL;DR what are you actually asking of us?

[zowozon]

my entire setup right now is a boss ds-1 and a behringer vd400

what i do is plug the main input and output of the vd400 into each other
and for the direct output i send that to the boss ds-1 and then the ouput of that goes into the amp

anything else i should add?

The problem with your question is itxe2x80x99s phrased in a way that there can be no real answer to it. None of us know what youxe2x80x99re trying to achieve with the set up you have now, let alone what youxe2x80x99re trying accomplish in general, and Ixe2x80x99m willing to bet you donxe2x80x99t know either.

We canxe2x80x99t make the noise for you: you have to play with what you have, learn from it, get an idea of what you want to do, and then move on from there.

It would be different if you had a specific question, like how do I make a feedback loop or what is control volume, or if you had asked for effects recommendations; even the xe2x80x9chow do I sound like Xxe2x80x9d-type threads have the possibility of an objective answer.

TL;DR what are you actually asking of us?

https://cranksatori.bandcamp.com/album/convolution-hive
i want to sound like this and also merzbow and ramleh if that helps

[BPJ]

what kind of weird ass stuff? can you show me the schematic?

Mid-Fi Electronics stuff is really weird, when it comes to pedals.

https://effectslayouts.blogspot.com/sea ... lectronics

[iNtox-Z]

i want to sound like this and also Merzbow and Ramleh if that helps

Now Ixe2x80x99ll add this budget pedals to the neutron, maybe you can change your mind.
What we got here? Behringer Neutron + Behringer FX600 + BOSS Metal Zone MT-2. This is it, but in order to get such a sound, you need to spend some time training with Neutron.
Also if u got for this Parametric EQ - Sound will be more agressive. Behringer FX600 here only for Pitch Shifter, and you can put something like microphone or shyker into LINE-IN of Neutron, or the tablet with some app instruments!!! For me Neutron is perfectly created for harsh noise, even if you got not a lot of pedals...i would recommend you another thing for a lot of effects 100 effects, but... it's digital but really good, and for people who donxe2x80x99t use with hes things like with shit, the thing is rather fragile and many people write that one thing broke or the other, but i have two of these devices and they are more than two years old, everything works and pleases like on the first day, it's - korg mini kaoss pad 2s. If i were a beginner then i would also buy a BASTL Instruments Microgranny 2.5 Noir.
Any way, any self-loving noiser must have a pedal - DOD Death Metal.

ps. its for you.

[¾ dead]

I hope this doesn't seem pedantic, but there's a few answers for Merzbow alone, depending on the era.

Good bets gear/technique-wise:

-Amplified junk metal/contact mics
-Tone generators + Ring modulators
-Japanese-style octave fuzz + wah (Behringer makes a good, cheap fuzz)
-Envelope filters/some other source of synth-y squelches.
-Loopers
-Granular synthesis
-Pseudo-random/manual stereo panning
-Lots of layering

I believe a lot of Merzbow material consists of overlapped recording sessions layered across multiple tracks using a DAT multi-track recorder, and it probably gets re-mixed on the fly during a final mix-down phase. I know he re-contextualizes old sources frequently, such that audio from one recording session might appear on two totally unrelated releases.

A more low-budget form of this can be accomplished with a 4-track recorder:
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You can also achieve similar effects live using various sound sources fed through a mixer (making use of the mutes and pan controls),

Granular synthesis is also capable of similar results. I use GranuLab (not the VST version, though) pretty much exclusively on the software side of things. It is 100% free and it suits my purposes fine. It'd be even more interesting with some hands-on MIDI control, but I'm still just point-and-clicking every slider with my mouse since I bricked the one POS slider controller I owned by trying to update its garbage firmware, which was a catastrophic failure. GranuLab is useable enough with just a mouse for control being my point.

PS: I also ape Merzbow's "dense, layered" style by simply mixing and layering loads and loads of old sessions in a wave editor (I use a cracked version of GoldWave and it's excellent for this. Audacity, of course, is free if you can't be bothered with cracks. Same basic functionality as GoldWave, plus proper multi-tracking capabilities).

[iNtox-Z]

Granular synthesis is also capable of similar sonic results.

Yes, Granular synthesis attracts me very much for experiments, the very first granular synthesis I spent in the Native Instruments Reaktor tool and it was very cool, since then a lot of time has passed and a lot of similar tools have been created, what pleases me most is that you can even use the phone or tablet play with granular synthesis.

All of the above methods of Merzbow are most likely to be such, he is a lord of noise and will probably use many other methods besides the above.
Here is very short video with Granular sound.

[iNtox-Z]

zowozon
You have to add a shaker to your setup, you should not buy ready-made because it is expensive, you have to make it yourself, for this you need an aluminum box, a drill, a piezo microphone and a jack input.

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