what noise makes you ask "why"

[banned]

Notice the words I'm using...mostly...some...the good performers...HNW.

yet you still seem to be complaining about everything

What's the asking why for then?
Why what?
Its not like you wanted to ask why is something good...right?
That's a whole different topic.

bruh, I was just being facetious.

yes some hnw is bad, same as some noise is sexist and some of that is just bad.

I kinda hate it when people talk about biases. not cos I don't want a level playing field, but cos as soon as I was diagnosed I wasn't allowed to play. who cares tho

[RUBBISH]

yet you still seem to be complaining about everything

What's the asking why for then?
Why what?
Its not like you wanted to ask why is something good...right?
That's a whole different topic.

bruh, I was just being facetious.

yes some hnw is bad, same as some noise is sexist and some of that is just bad.

I kinda hate it when people talk about biases. not cos I don't want a level playing field, but cos as soon as I was diagnosed I wasn't allowed to play. who cares tho

...and I'm just masturbating with you here.

[banned]

What's the asking why for then?
Why what?
Its not like you wanted to ask why is something good...right?
That's a whole different topic.

bruh, I was just being facetious.

yes some hnw is bad, same as some noise is sexist and some of that is just bad.

I kinda hate it when people talk about biases. not cos I don't want a level playing field, but cos as soon as I was diagnosed I wasn't allowed to play. who cares tho

...and I'm just masturbating with you here.

haha.

it's bullshit for me to complain. not everything that seems unfair is relevant.

[Soloman Tump]

yes some hnw is bad

Ok, how does one quantify bad HNW?

[RUBBISH]

yes some hnw is bad

Ok, how does one quantify bad HNW?

To me its usually on a tape.
Live its just somebody just standing there not even scary or menacing or funny looking and not near loud or harsh enough.
There is also a generational thing going on.
30 years ago I may have found the idea of HNW more exciting.

[banned]

yes some hnw is bad

Ok, how does one quantify bad HNW?

maybe when it's more about "product" than anything?

[banned]

yes some hnw is bad

Ok, how does one quantify bad HNW?

To me its usually on a tape.
Live its just somebody just standing there not even scary or menacing or funny looking and not near loud or harsh enough.
There is also a generational thing going on.
30 years ago I may have found the idea of HNW more exciting.

yeah I think ten year old me would've loved HNW

product (to be consumed) vs consumer of HNW. same as anything?

[BPJ]

RUBBISH is old, so of course he's complaining. I agree with him, probably because I'm becoming old. I'd really rather make HNW than buy it, record it or sell it.

I think most noise that makes me ask "Why" is stuff that gives me second hand cringe, usually cuz it reminds me of myself years ago before I just leaned into being an idiot. Some of the cringe stuff is just funny, though.

[RUBBISH]

Ok, how does one quantify bad HNW?

To me its usually on a tape.
Live its just somebody just standing there not even scary or menacing or funny looking and not near loud or harsh enough.
There is also a generational thing going on.
30 years ago I may have found the idea of HNW more exciting.

yeah I think ten year old me would've loved HNW

product (to be consumed) vs consumer of HNW. same as anything?

Casio C1 with the loop sampler function...I would record a sound and just hold the key down and wlt it go...sort of HNW...or just straight guitar feedback with no variation. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE as loud as possible just because.

But yes I agree. Making HNW can be loads of fun and I've spent probably days of time doing it.

I don't want to discourage people making HNW I just want some that I like and I mean more than just the cover art or creepy titles that I do like.

Maybe its like table top RPGs dungeons & dragons for me. I like the idea and all the gear that goes with it but...just haven't had good experience with it in real life with other people.

Maybe I just need to hang out with VOMIR (who seems like a total hilarious good dude...his shit folk music is amazing).

I don't think for me this threads topic really applies to how I think. It is just me not so much complaining as me airing my personal issues and tastes for and about things.

But subgenres of noise make me ask why and that's why I rail on HNW that I think is just noise but boring(to me) because of its length.
Yes I understand why the length and what real affect it has when listening to it but...there are actual time tested traditional sounds and music that are better at achieving certain states of mind that are more to my liking.
I dunno now I'm confused...why?

[banned]

how the cringe doth pain the anchorite.

dunno now I'm confused...why?

I think you gotta ask little questions of noise: I hate all that jliat nonsense about reality being noise... just duh