HNW question

[cultofthesunmachine]

if you popped into your local coffee shop and jacked in some HNW to the sound system, i fucking guarantee every single person there would find meaning in it, not one person would state "it was meaningless, i felt nothing, i was not moved", at the very least its going to activate your fight or flight mechanism

Ask what is means, they would say - xe2x80x9cnothing xe2x80x93 its just horrible noisexe2x80x9d.

ask anyone what any song "means" and they will give you their interpretation, many of them will not interpret the song as the artist intended, a pitfall of communication, but all of them will "find meaning", even your "nothing - its just horrible noise" is relaying a communication that was made from the work to the listener, the work says "i am horrible!"

[JLIAT]

if you popped into your local coffee shop and jacked in some HNW to the sound system, i fucking guarantee every single person there would find meaning in it, not one person would state "it was meaningless, i felt nothing, i was not moved", at the very least its going to activate your fight or flight mechanism

Ask what is means, they would say - xe2x80x9cnothing xe2x80x93 its just horrible noisexe2x80x9d.

ask anyone what any song "means" and they will give you their interpretation, many of them will not interpret the song as the artist intended, a pitfall of communication, but all of them will "find meaning", even your "nothing - its just horrible noise" is relaying a communication that was made from the work to the listener, the work says "i am horrible!"

Well if that's what you think fine. You think everything has meaning anyway so no need to ask.

I had a music lecturer once, I was a student, short course, who was fascinated by the images some people had listening to music, as he never had any. Add to that - I think the general description of the HNW being noise, and the general idea of noise not enabling communication or meaning, we will have to differ.

Your use of the word "communication" is also at odds with the general usage, which again its your thing, fine.

[cultofthesunmachine]

Well if that's what you think fine. You think everything has meaning anyway so no need to ask.

everything has meaning, thats how you know it exists, the only thing that has no meaning is Nothing, if you know of something that has no meaning then please briefly describe it

I had a music lecturer once, I was a student, short course, who was fascinated by the images some people had listening to music, as he never had any.

fucking fantastic insight, your educators were dullards

Add to that - I think the general description of the HNW being noise, and the general idea of noise not enabling communication or meaning, we will have to differ.

you can think whatever you want, that doesnt change the fact that noise communicates, maybe you dont like it, maybe you dont get it, but its still happening, otherwise you wouldnt have any opinion on the matter

[cultofthesunmachine]

Your use of the word "communication" is also at odds with the general usage, which again its your thing, fine.

no, its not

a process by which information(noise) is exchanged between individuals through a common system of symbols(tracks), signs(recordings), or behavior(performance)

[JLIAT]

Well if that's what you think fine. You think everything has meaning anyway so no need to ask.

everything has meaning, thats how you know it exists, the only thing that has no meaning is Nothing, if you know of something that has no meaning then please briefly describe it

The Universe, Me.

I had a music lecturer once, I was a student, short course, who was fascinated by the images some people had listening to music, as he never had any.

fucking fantastic insight, your educators were dullards

Maybe so. So then dullards don't get meaning - doh!

Add to that - I think the general description of the HNW being noise, and the general idea of noise not enabling communication or meaning, we will have to differ.

you can think whatever you want, that doesnt change the fact that noise communicates, maybe you dont like it, maybe you dont get it, but its still happening, otherwise you wouldnt have any opinion on the matter

As I said you are using the non standard definition of communication.

Communication
Communication (from Latin communicare, meaning "to share") is the act of conveying meanings from one entity or group to another through the use of mutually understood signs, symbols, and semiotic rules.

I use this and so noise,

random fluctuations that obscure or do not contain meaningful data or other information.

Dull and simple I know.

[cultofthesunmachine]

everything has meaning, thats how you know it exists, the only thing that has no meaning is Nothing, if you know of something that has no meaning then please briefly describe it

The Universe, Me.

these things mean something to you, they are signifiers, just like all words, the objects behind the words dont strictly exist so they are irrelevant to the meaning of the words

[NoiseWiki]

Maybe you are using the word in a non standard way?

Nope

Communication (from Latin communicare, meaning "to share") is the act of conveying meanings from one entity or group to another through the use of mutually understood signs, symbols, and semiotic rules.

Re representational art, from what i've seen its all the rage, from anti fascism, feminism, anti racism, anti colonialism (the current show in the turbine hall) LBGT, anti capitalism, and environmentalism. The arts have become politicised by the activists of the left to an extreme where i doubt a merely aesthetc object would be acceptable.

Jeez you sound like a Orange Shit Gibbon supporter or at least a Republican.. is your motto grab HNW by the pussy?

[crochambeau]

is your motto grab HNW by the pussy?

...after beating it to death with a pedantic tirade?

[cultofthesunmachine]

Maybe you are using the word in a non standard way?

Nope

Communication (from Latin communicare, meaning "to share") is the act of conveying meanings from one entity or group to another through the use of mutually understood signs, symbols, and semiotic rules.

Communication (from Latin communicare, meaning "to share") is the act of conveying meanings(noise) from one entity or group to another through the use of mutually understood signs(noise), symbols(noise), and semiotic rules.(noise)

Re representational art, from what i've seen its all the rage, from anti fascism, feminism, anti racism, anti colonialism (the current show in the turbine hall) LBGT, anti capitalism, and environmentalism. The arts have become politicised by the activists of the left to an extreme where i doubt a merely aesthetc object would be acceptable.

Jeez you sound like a Orange Shit Gibbon supporter or at least a Republican.. is your motto grab HNW by the pussy?

hilarious, though in this rare instance he is correct, thats why new cars are so ugly

[NoiseWiki]

hilarious, though in this rare instance he is correct, thats why new cars are so ugly

Yeah but Orange Shit Gibbon only cares if something is gold plated and bears his name.. otherwise he's a nihilist.. the planet is going to burn out eventually let's see if we can make it happen in our lifetimes and all the better if he gets paid to do so.

All the same and I don't know what kind of world we'd be living in but we might as well have Jdawg for prez if we're gonna tolerate a ham fisted orange shit gibbon. At least the tweets would be articulate.